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		<title>Comment on Philip Pullman&#8217;s The Golden Compass - what is the appropriate response? by Jerome Kropp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerome Kropp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will try to be very brief.  I have read all three books of the “His Dark Materials” trilogy, and while not getting into any details may make comments that some would regard as “spoilers.”

For a Christian believer, perhaps the most disturbing element of atheism is not that it is anti-God (we see that one coming a mile away and are pretty prepared for it) but that it is anti-human.  Because for the believer a human person is something unique, mysterious, miraculous, and created by God with an eternal destiny, atheism must by definition be putting forth a radically different conception of what it means to be human.

As I read these novels, I had the uneasy feeling that the characters Pullman portrays were not “real” people.  Of course, in a merely bad novel one gets that feeling simply because the characters are not well realized.  But in this case it’s different, it’s as if Pullman is consciously, though surreptitiously, trying to invent a new kind of humanity, one without all the “baggage” of being the loved creation of the Judaeo-Christian God.  What most of us would recognize as morality, for one.  Most of the characters are not immoral, exactly, or even amoral.  But their morality appears arbitrary and capricious, and does not rule out such things as lies, thievery, or cold-blooded murder.  It is based on something the author refuses to divulge.  It also creates a curious but distinct disorienting feeling of the “what’s it all about?” variety.  Although there are a succession of gripping scenes in which we root for certain characters to survive, we can never quite discover what it is we’re supposed to be “rooting for” on the grand scale, unlike The Lord of the Rings, Narnia, or even the Indiana Jones saga, for heaven’s sake.

As human beings, we are very good at criticizing and even discarding the meaning and destiny which are given to us by God.  But we are very, very bad at inventing something to replace them.  All of our attempts to do so seem to go badly awry, e.g. mediocre novels, cults, totalitarian societies.  We simply do not have it in us to create Heaven.  But we can certainly come up with several varieties of reasonable facsimile of Hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will try to be very brief.  I have read all three books of the “His Dark Materials” trilogy, and while not getting into any details may make comments that some would regard as “spoilers.”</p>
<p>For a Christian believer, perhaps the most disturbing element of atheism is not that it is anti-God (we see that one coming a mile away and are pretty prepared for it) but that it is anti-human.  Because for the believer a human person is something unique, mysterious, miraculous, and created by God with an eternal destiny, atheism must by definition be putting forth a radically different conception of what it means to be human.</p>
<p>As I read these novels, I had the uneasy feeling that the characters Pullman portrays were not “real” people.  Of course, in a merely bad novel one gets that feeling simply because the characters are not well realized.  But in this case it’s different, it’s as if Pullman is consciously, though surreptitiously, trying to invent a new kind of humanity, one without all the “baggage” of being the loved creation of the Judaeo-Christian God.  What most of us would recognize as morality, for one.  Most of the characters are not immoral, exactly, or even amoral.  But their morality appears arbitrary and capricious, and does not rule out such things as lies, thievery, or cold-blooded murder.  It is based on something the author refuses to divulge.  It also creates a curious but distinct disorienting feeling of the “what’s it all about?” variety.  Although there are a succession of gripping scenes in which we root for certain characters to survive, we can never quite discover what it is we’re supposed to be “rooting for” on the grand scale, unlike The Lord of the Rings, Narnia, or even the Indiana Jones saga, for heaven’s sake.</p>
<p>As human beings, we are very good at criticizing and even discarding the meaning and destiny which are given to us by God.  But we are very, very bad at inventing something to replace them.  All of our attempts to do so seem to go badly awry, e.g. mediocre novels, cults, totalitarian societies.  We simply do not have it in us to create Heaven.  But we can certainly come up with several varieties of reasonable facsimile of Hell.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Philip Pullman&#8217;s The Golden Compass - what is the appropriate response? by Matt S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive me if I am mistaken, but isn't discussing the "impact" or "influence" of a movie as members of a Christian forum a bit of a metaphorical book-burning? It seems to me that as Christians we should be going after people's hearts, since that is what Jesus did, rather than forming opinions about trivial issues. It is not, and has never been a Chrisians calling to police what other people see or do. We so often seem to forget that it all comes down to a personal choice for each and every person. No one has ever been condemned for making or watching a movie, and I find that reason enough to lay this, and many other such topics, to rest. It is only wounded pride which causes us to become offended by the statements and arguments of the faithless. God is perfectly capable of defending Himself. All that we need do is to help spread His love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me if I am mistaken, but isn&#8217;t discussing the &#8220;impact&#8221; or &#8220;influence&#8221; of a movie as members of a Christian forum a bit of a metaphorical book-burning? It seems to me that as Christians we should be going after people&#8217;s hearts, since that is what Jesus did, rather than forming opinions about trivial issues. It is not, and has never been a Chrisians calling to police what other people see or do. We so often seem to forget that it all comes down to a personal choice for each and every person. No one has ever been condemned for making or watching a movie, and I find that reason enough to lay this, and many other such topics, to rest. It is only wounded pride which causes us to become offended by the statements and arguments of the faithless. God is perfectly capable of defending Himself. All that we need do is to help spread His love.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Philip Pullman&#8217;s The Golden Compass - what is the appropriate response? by Sorina Higgins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorina Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this good discussion! I love thoughtful comments by intelligent Christians on an excellent, and excellently awful, work of fantasy. I've written a review here: http://iambicadmonit.blogspot.com/2007/12/golden-compass-review.html. 

I really loved the movie. And I really love the books. I don't think polemic destroys them as fiction, although I do agree that it undermines them. I believe that reading the books, watching the films, and taking students (about high school age, I would say) to watch the film and have a conversation are all valuable activities for "Mars Hill" types of Christians. In my review I discuss some specific dangers of the first film that should be pointed out to younger audience members, but that are by no means reasons to stay away. The movie is beautiful, the books are brilliant. Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this good discussion! I love thoughtful comments by intelligent Christians on an excellent, and excellently awful, work of fantasy. I&#8217;ve written a review here: <a href="http://iambicadmonit.blogspot.com/2007/12/golden-compass-review.html" rel="nofollow">http://iambicadmonit.blogspot.com/2007/12/golden-compass-review.html</a>. </p>
<p>I really loved the movie. And I really love the books. I don&#8217;t think polemic destroys them as fiction, although I do agree that it undermines them. I believe that reading the books, watching the films, and taking students (about high school age, I would say) to watch the film and have a conversation are all valuable activities for &#8220;Mars Hill&#8221; types of Christians. In my review I discuss some specific dangers of the first film that should be pointed out to younger audience members, but that are by no means reasons to stay away. The movie is beautiful, the books are brilliant. Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Oxbridge 2008 Travel Recommendations by Steven Elmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Elmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When our Office Assistant, Alyssa, and her friend, Janelle, heard that I was posting up a travel tips blog for Oxbridge, they decided to put together their own mini travel tips guide.  Both seasoned travelers to England, they came up with a fun and informative guide to Oxford and Cambridge - &lt;a href="http://www.cslewis.org/programs/oxbridge/2008/MustDoList.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Alyssa and Janelle's 'Don't Leave Until You've Done This' List"&lt;/a&gt; which can be viewed or downloaded by clicking this &lt;a href="http://www.cslewis.org/programs/oxbridge/2008/MustDoList.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;.

Here's what they have to say: “In our humble opinion, England is one of the most unique countries in the world. It’s an incredible blend of ancient and modern, classy and edgy, and traditions and innovations. Having been lucky enough to go to school there for a couple of years, we have some great memories and opinions to share with you. We hope that you find this forum helpful and inspiring, even if you have visited England before, and especially if you haven’t. Feel free to share memories, stories, ideas and great travel tips on the C.S. Lewis Foundation Blog.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When our Office Assistant, Alyssa, and her friend, Janelle, heard that I was posting up a travel tips blog for Oxbridge, they decided to put together their own mini travel tips guide.  Both seasoned travelers to England, they came up with a fun and informative guide to Oxford and Cambridge - <a href="http://www.cslewis.org/programs/oxbridge/2008/MustDoList.pdf" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Alyssa and Janelle&#8217;s &#8216;Don&#8217;t Leave Until You&#8217;ve Done This&#8217; List&#8221;</a> which can be viewed or downloaded by clicking this <a href="http://www.cslewis.org/programs/oxbridge/2008/MustDoList.pdf" rel="nofollow">link</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what they have to say: “In our humble opinion, England is one of the most unique countries in the world. It’s an incredible blend of ancient and modern, classy and edgy, and traditions and innovations. Having been lucky enough to go to school there for a couple of years, we have some great memories and opinions to share with you. We hope that you find this forum helpful and inspiring, even if you have visited England before, and especially if you haven’t. Feel free to share memories, stories, ideas and great travel tips on the C.S. Lewis Foundation Blog.”</p>
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		<title>Comment on Philip Pullman&#8217;s The Golden Compass - what is the appropriate response? by cslewisfoundation</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, I just recently found a few other resources on The Golden Compass that fit into this discussion.  

One is from Michael Ward and answers some of Pullman's attacks on C.S. Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia. It's in pdf form and can be viewed/downloaded at http://www.planetnarnia.com/michael-ward/writing.

Another is from Edward Higgins and Tom Johnson and can be found at http://www.christiancentury.org/article.lasso?id=4223. This article claims that the His Dark Materials trilogy contains worthy, even Christian, themes, despite the claims of many.

And a third article from Stephanie Paulsell compares the worlds of Pullman and Lewis, showing that there are many similarities in the two author's visions, especially when it comes to their views on childhood and the function of storytelling/narrative. You can find it here: http://www.christiancentury.org/article.lasso?id=4206

Again, we at the Foundation do not specifically endorse these resources, but are providing them as part of the discussion.

Thanks! Steve Elmore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, I just recently found a few other resources on The Golden Compass that fit into this discussion.  </p>
<p>One is from Michael Ward and answers some of Pullman&#8217;s attacks on C.S. Lewis&#8217; Chronicles of Narnia. It&#8217;s in pdf form and can be viewed/downloaded at <a href="http://www.planetnarnia.com/michael-ward/writing" rel="nofollow">http://www.planetnarnia.com/michael-ward/writing</a>.</p>
<p>Another is from Edward Higgins and Tom Johnson and can be found at <a href="http://www.christiancentury.org/article.lasso?id=4223" rel="nofollow">http://www.christiancentury.org/article.lasso?id=4223</a>. This article claims that the His Dark Materials trilogy contains worthy, even Christian, themes, despite the claims of many.</p>
<p>And a third article from Stephanie Paulsell compares the worlds of Pullman and Lewis, showing that there are many similarities in the two author&#8217;s visions, especially when it comes to their views on childhood and the function of storytelling/narrative. You can find it here: <a href="http://www.christiancentury.org/article.lasso?id=4206" rel="nofollow">http://www.christiancentury.org/article.lasso?id=4206</a></p>
<p>Again, we at the Foundation do not specifically endorse these resources, but are providing them as part of the discussion.</p>
<p>Thanks! Steve Elmore</p>
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		<title>Comment on Oxbridge 2008 Discussion 1 - Bruce Herman Thesis by writer2b</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Mr. Lunsford's thesis. The picture that pops into my mind is of Lucy leafing through the magician's book in 'Dawn Treader.' She sees one scene in which two friends are talking about her, and draws a conclusion about her real social being among them. But Aslan reproves her, saying that the picture on the page has only given her a part of the story. The message seems to be that Lucy can't get an accurate sense of who she is in the community of people by being a spectator, but by participating; being a spectator is represented as a temptation to be less than who she really is.

The same is true of of our culture's infatuation with the cyber-self, or with the assumption that we can create ourselves through what we buy. We're given tempting visual images in advertising; we picture ourselves with these products; we purchase them. Or we design a personal advertisement of sorts in a web page. But this only creates our "exterior self." What we need others for is the mirror they provide of our inner selves. The more deeply you know and interact with others, the more you confront what's universal about being human. And the more you have to make accommodations to others, the more conscious you become of who you are as distinct from them.

All of us have been in restaurants and observed (or experienced) the strange phenomenon of people gathered together for social interaction, but talking on their cell phones. They make eye contact with those around them, but deflect into the private technological experience they're having. It's a good example of the way self-creation flattens out a person's multidimensionality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mr. Lunsford&#8217;s thesis. The picture that pops into my mind is of Lucy leafing through the magician&#8217;s book in &#8216;Dawn Treader.&#8217; She sees one scene in which two friends are talking about her, and draws a conclusion about her real social being among them. But Aslan reproves her, saying that the picture on the page has only given her a part of the story. The message seems to be that Lucy can&#8217;t get an accurate sense of who she is in the community of people by being a spectator, but by participating; being a spectator is represented as a temptation to be less than who she really is.</p>
<p>The same is true of of our culture&#8217;s infatuation with the cyber-self, or with the assumption that we can create ourselves through what we buy. We&#8217;re given tempting visual images in advertising; we picture ourselves with these products; we purchase them. Or we design a personal advertisement of sorts in a web page. But this only creates our &#8220;exterior self.&#8221; What we need others for is the mirror they provide of our inner selves. The more deeply you know and interact with others, the more you confront what&#8217;s universal about being human. And the more you have to make accommodations to others, the more conscious you become of who you are as distinct from them.</p>
<p>All of us have been in restaurants and observed (or experienced) the strange phenomenon of people gathered together for social interaction, but talking on their cell phones. They make eye contact with those around them, but deflect into the private technological experience they&#8217;re having. It&#8217;s a good example of the way self-creation flattens out a person&#8217;s multidimensionality.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Philip Pullman&#8217;s The Golden Compass - what is the appropriate response? by writer2b</title>
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		<dc:creator>writer2b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm late to weigh in on this, but as I read the above comments I'm reminded of JFK's statement that "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie -- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." 

This movie is apparently a purveyor of some popular myths about the Christian church, and the corruption of authority structures in general. Believing as I do (and as Lewis did) in the power and spiritual relevance of the imagination, I think the debate about this movie should center less around rational arguments embedded in it, and more around the subversive power of this medium. Myths often hide out in a person's belief system even if they run counter to it, and film can challenge or confirm them without ever engaging a person's rational processes.

To me the most reasonable response is simply not to view it. It hasn't gotten great reviews; the subject doesn't interest me; I don't want to support the endeavor financially. And I'm capable of responding to any misunderstandings about Christianity that may arise in conversations with others who've seen it, without having to sit through it myself. (I have a Bible and a sin nature, and those are the basic tools needed.)

Making a hubbub of boycotting it seems counterproductive. Boycotts are more eloquent when they're quiet and uncoerced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m late to weigh in on this, but as I read the above comments I&#8217;m reminded of JFK&#8217;s statement that &#8220;The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie &#8212; deliberate, contrived and dishonest &#8212; but the myth &#8212; persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.&#8221; </p>
<p>This movie is apparently a purveyor of some popular myths about the Christian church, and the corruption of authority structures in general. Believing as I do (and as Lewis did) in the power and spiritual relevance of the imagination, I think the debate about this movie should center less around rational arguments embedded in it, and more around the subversive power of this medium. Myths often hide out in a person&#8217;s belief system even if they run counter to it, and film can challenge or confirm them without ever engaging a person&#8217;s rational processes.</p>
<p>To me the most reasonable response is simply not to view it. It hasn&#8217;t gotten great reviews; the subject doesn&#8217;t interest me; I don&#8217;t want to support the endeavor financially. And I&#8217;m capable of responding to any misunderstandings about Christianity that may arise in conversations with others who&#8217;ve seen it, without having to sit through it myself. (I have a Bible and a sin nature, and those are the basic tools needed.)</p>
<p>Making a hubbub of boycotting it seems counterproductive. Boycotts are more eloquent when they&#8217;re quiet and uncoerced.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Oxbridge 2008 Discussion 1 - Bruce Herman Thesis by Bruce Herman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 11:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Brett. Your point above about "avatars" is precisely what interests me in this conversation -- and of course, all social activity can be seen as a construction site so-to-speak. (I imagine cave people sitting around a fire beating their chests and fluffing up their primitive Prada costumes to appear more impressive.) We all paint self-portraits each minute of our waking existence -- the trick, it seems to me, is to be freed from mere posturing and that false sense of self that leads us to think we've created ourselves. In Milton's Paradise Lost, Lucifer cries out "Non Serviam!" (I will never serve!) because he feels that his dignity and selfhood would suffer loss if he were to submit to God or serve creatures lower than himself (humans). But this is the divine economy: the higher always serves the lower.
In a world of imagined autonomy and self-creation, we are subtly tempted to think of ourselves more highly than is wholesome. Living amongst real people in real time and real space always results in at least a little humiliation. (Which is health-giving and life affirming. The supposed autonomy of self-invention is, I fear, closer to death and the ultimate suffering of total autonomy: hell.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brett. Your point above about &#8220;avatars&#8221; is precisely what interests me in this conversation &#8212; and of course, all social activity can be seen as a construction site so-to-speak. (I imagine cave people sitting around a fire beating their chests and fluffing up their primitive Prada costumes to appear more impressive.) We all paint self-portraits each minute of our waking existence &#8212; the trick, it seems to me, is to be freed from mere posturing and that false sense of self that leads us to think we&#8217;ve created ourselves. In Milton&#8217;s Paradise Lost, Lucifer cries out &#8220;Non Serviam!&#8221; (I will never serve!) because he feels that his dignity and selfhood would suffer loss if he were to submit to God or serve creatures lower than himself (humans). But this is the divine economy: the higher always serves the lower.<br />
In a world of imagined autonomy and self-creation, we are subtly tempted to think of ourselves more highly than is wholesome. Living amongst real people in real time and real space always results in at least a little humiliation. (Which is health-giving and life affirming. The supposed autonomy of self-invention is, I fear, closer to death and the ultimate suffering of total autonomy: hell.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Philip Pullman&#8217;s The Golden Compass - what is the appropriate response? by Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm encouraged by the number of responses that suggest Christian faith can withstand stories like Pullman's.  Considering how our Lord suggests that the gates of Hell itself shall not overcome Christian Faith, Pullman's (admittedly intriguing) work seems small potatoes in comparison.

Blessings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m encouraged by the number of responses that suggest Christian faith can withstand stories like Pullman&#8217;s.  Considering how our Lord suggests that the gates of Hell itself shall not overcome Christian Faith, Pullman&#8217;s (admittedly intriguing) work seems small potatoes in comparison.</p>
<p>Blessings!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Oxbridge 2008 Discussion 1 - Bruce Herman Thesis by Brett McCracken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett McCracken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very excited to hear your lecture, Bruce. I too am quite interested in the implications of the widespread "attempts to “invent” oneself in a private (virtual) world versus discovering oneself in the context of community." As someone who has grown up in a predominantly virtual "make your own avatar identity" world, I can definitely relate to my generation's preference for the individuated self-constructed "self."

I recently assigned a paper to my students at UCLA in which I had them analyze "social networking" sites like Facebook/Myspace (which they are all quite active on) in terms of individual vs. social communication. I wanted them to think about how they are using these "virtual communities" as either a platform to exhibit some idealized avatar of themselves or a more ritualistic site of community-building and shared meaning... or some combination therein. The consensus of my students was that Facebook-type communities are first and foremost valuable as an efficient way to be "in the loop" in everyone else's lives. The real-time updates that are on every Facebook page are a sort of publicized self-disclosure in which every participant reveals their unfolding identity in accordance with what they want their perceived facebook "self" to be... So in this way it is definitely an individual, highly self-conscious construction of one's "public" self, though it is done in the context of a tightly-knit community in which everyone wants to be in on everyone else's experience. 

It's all very interesting to me, even though I'm not (and will never be) on Facebook...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very excited to hear your lecture, Bruce. I too am quite interested in the implications of the widespread &#8220;attempts to “invent” oneself in a private (virtual) world versus discovering oneself in the context of community.&#8221; As someone who has grown up in a predominantly virtual &#8220;make your own avatar identity&#8221; world, I can definitely relate to my generation&#8217;s preference for the individuated self-constructed &#8220;self.&#8221;</p>
<p>I recently assigned a paper to my students at UCLA in which I had them analyze &#8220;social networking&#8221; sites like Facebook/Myspace (which they are all quite active on) in terms of individual vs. social communication. I wanted them to think about how they are using these &#8220;virtual communities&#8221; as either a platform to exhibit some idealized avatar of themselves or a more ritualistic site of community-building and shared meaning&#8230; or some combination therein. The consensus of my students was that Facebook-type communities are first and foremost valuable as an efficient way to be &#8220;in the loop&#8221; in everyone else&#8217;s lives. The real-time updates that are on every Facebook page are a sort of publicized self-disclosure in which every participant reveals their unfolding identity in accordance with what they want their perceived facebook &#8220;self&#8221; to be&#8230; So in this way it is definitely an individual, highly self-conscious construction of one&#8217;s &#8220;public&#8221; self, though it is done in the context of a tightly-knit community in which everyone wants to be in on everyone else&#8217;s experience. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all very interesting to me, even though I&#8217;m not (and will never be) on Facebook&#8230;</p>
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